Between Systems

Jake Lawrence

Engineer & host · jakelawrence.xyz

Between Systems · Episode 0 · June 24, 2026

Why this show exists

The most interesting work happens where two systems meet and nobody owns the gap. This show is an hour spent in that gap, with the person standing in it.
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A short trailer: what Between Systems is, who it's for, and the standing invitation — if you work where systems meet, there's a chair here for you.

Between Systems is a short interview show about the people who work where systems meet — civic infrastructure, academia, recovery, govtech, and rebuilding.

One guest, one hour, one honest conversation. If that's you, the invitation is open.

About Jake

Jake builds civic infrastructure, LLM research, and tools in public — one person and a team of AI agents shipping daily. Between Systems is his standing invitation to the people doing the work at the seams.

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