Jake Lawrence — Why this show exists

Jake Lawrence: Most of the interesting work I run into doesn't sit inside one system — it sits in the gap between two of them, where nobody quite owns the outcome. Between Systems is an hour spent in that gap, with the person standing in it.

Jake Lawrence: If you work at one of those seams — civic and technical, academic and practical, human and institutional — there's a chair here for you. That's the whole pitch. The audio is just what's left over after a good conversation.